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by rich.tullo on Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:56 pm I would pick them over a Les Baer , I hear the wait at one time was crazy but if they are holding to their word they are nice. They aren’t sorry, they did all of this on purpose, they are just sorry they got caught. BTW if you think this is good for TTAG’s ad revenue you’re crazy. Mark Larson, along with his brother Chuck, founded Rock River Arms in 1996 when they began producing high quality 1911-style pistols and AR-15 style rifles. This welcome news came five long days after the world first learned of IFMA’s deal to trade opposition to a gun … It has grown steadily ever since and now employs 85 people. Good thing there are other options out there. Flint River Armory, LLC info@flintriverarmory.com. The other, bigger MI gun orgs? Mike and Valinda Rowe spent countless hours working the rail on behalf of IllinoisCarry. model (which most closely resembles the M1911A1 that … Sell the company or it will go bankrupt. Their responses reek of panic and damage control. Rock River Arms also produces M1911 pattern pistols in addition to rifles. I find the finish to the article very bizarre. His logic is sound, if you are going to have a round limit more energy per shot is a good thing. If what they say IS true and they didn’t know what was going on, so much the worse. Why did Springfield and Rock River Arms wait until Monday to issue a response? I am wondering this because of the discrepancies between the IFMA tax statements (which show the disbursements) and the campaign disclosure forms (which do NOT show the contributions). “Use them for the fight now, make them crash and burn when the fight is over.”. Can you give me a good reason why this is going on, and/or perhaps a reason why I shouldn’t run this story?”. Glassdoor gives you an inside look at what it's like to work at Rock River Arms, including salaries, reviews, office photos, and more. That’s when I did more research on the political donation story. Not everyone is jumping on the kill SA/RRA bandwagon, it would seem. This whole thing is a big shit sandwich. I suspect that delay had something to do with Keller making sure a big fat check cleared before letting them throw him under the bus to save their own necks. None of this makes sense. Baghdad Bob Owens’s message: pay no attention to those men behind the IFMA curtain! They knew, they gave money to anti’s and your going to welcome them to the fight? Mark Larson, along with his brother Chuck, founded Rock River Arms in 1996 when they began producing high quality 1911-style pistols and AR-15 style rifles. Much of the proprietary knowledge used by engineers to make the RUK-15 reliable with such a short barrel surrounds this setup and gas port size. It still must pass the House. “The idea to switch from Rock River to Adams Arms was pushed from the bottom up,” Gualtieri said. The point is that there’s a wide space of difference between putting your name on a document and being integrally involved in day-to-day. Again. The Illinois Senate passed SB 1657, the Gun Dealer Licensing Act’s official name, by only one vote. Most lawyers wil make a gun argument (wrong) of a constitutional prvision/rights issue (correct). You must be one of those weirdos that gets off on being punched in the face. For proof of that, just look at TFB where they are owned by Vertical Scope, an internets™ behemoth that has bought up damn near every internets™ forum around. Doesn’t make sense. It looks to me like they had plan to try and defuse this. Many 'spec' builders do not. Companies don’t pay big buck lobbyists to work on their behalf and not know what’s going on. IFMA = RRA and SA. Item must ship to an FFL dealer. You DUMPED the genie out of the bottle, John. VS has sissified and PC’d everything they own, with ruthless fascist mods who will send you to Banned Camp the instant you type a non-PC thought. There’s a bit of irony in that. OUT OF STOCK (0) LWRC SIX8-A5 6.8 SPC. Consequently, these people have every right to be upset at SA and RRA, regardless of what they did or did not do. It would seem so. Larson called and spoke with me. But they failed to mention Illinois Carry, the Illinois Federation for Outdoor Resources and Guns Save Life, all of which have worked hard in Springfield, putting in hundreds of lobbying hours fighting against Second Amendment infringements like SB-1657. Has anybody noticed whenever you click on a Springfield hyperlink link in the article it takes you to Midway’s website and if you click on RRA’s links it takes you to Brownell’s site. Never. But Boch has delivered nothing less than exceptional, responsible work here. At first, both companies attacked me, The Truth About Guns and Guns Save Life. So What Happened At Rock River Arms & Springfield Armory??? I think what John means is that SAI & RRA now have the opportunity to put their money where their mouths are and put their big boy pants on and TRULY help to stop this bill. Nothing but fake news. Would they now be reduced to emails as the support mechanism? The committee meeting for this was March 28th where the exemption with Keller’s clients by Harmon (I think that is his name) was brought up. Rock River Arms RRAGE Carbine In keeping with that smartphone spirit, the shooter can stream HD video directly from the scope, plus simultaneously record … This time, we had lobbyists from many of the national gun control groups in Illinois working against us. Come on. FlamencoD, do you believe that the president of SA, Dennis Reese, who is also the president of IFMA, had no idea what was going on? For gun rights forces, once more, it was all hands on deck. Then boycott them and destroy them after they’ve spent money making it easier to take them down. If SA and RRA were innocent, they would have spoken openly and truthfully to Boch, instead of avoiding him. But no one is perfect. Even Dr. Dao settled with UA and the cop didn’t even work for the airline, wake up! Rock River Arms, Incorporated is a manufacturing company based in Colona, Illinois that manufacturers parts and accessories for AR-15/M16 type rifles, as well as complete firearms. Compare pay for popular roles and read about the team’s work-life balance. Get caught cutting said deal then claim “I didn’t know what MY lobbyist was doing. Yesterday, both Rock River Arms and Springfield Armory severed ties with their own private lobbying group, The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). Men like John will be watching. How is this being gracious in victory? Rock River Arms, Inc. remains open for manufacturing during the Covid-19 Pandemic. Sure, they may have funded IFMA with hundreds of thousands of dollars FOR YEARS, but they were totally in the dark about the carve-out deal. 2nd Amendment Supporters are up in 'Arms' pun intended about the news broken by The Truth About Guns … @FlamencoD, of all the things we might call you, Fudd would be the nicest. (As above, from the 2013 IFMA IRS Form 990.). This is a factory new LAR-15/AR-15 forged 7075 T6 Aluminum stripped lower receiver from Rock River Arms. These pistols are commonly available in the $400 to $500 range, or around half the price of a Colt. The X-1 has existed in 5.56 NATO for a few years now, but the jump into the .300 BLK chambering figures to be another huge leap forwar… plucked as if directly from my addled brain. Boards don’t often have 100% turnover in just a few years. Even if no one else had done any work to fight the bill – which we know from Mr. Boch isn’t the case – there is no reason for them to have either ignored what their own lobbyist (paid thousands to do the job) was doing or to have avoided Mr. Boch when he sought to determine where they stood on both the bill and on the story about concessions they were offered in exchange for taking “No Position”. I don’t see them effing with gun owners and Mr. Boch again soon. In December 2003, after outperforming 10 other manufacturers in rifle abuse tests, Rock River Arms was awarded a contract with the Drug Enforcement Administration for a minimum of 5,000 LAR-15 rifles to be purchased over five years. In the end, everyone worked together and we got the job done. $ is what got them into this mess. Consequences for your actions…when are we going to start expecting that? I also won’t be selling any of my 3 excellent Springfield firearms. Because SA/RRA didn’t stop their opposition back then and the bill didn’t pass back then? The gun grabbers are not the ones who will buy your products, nor are they the ones who are ever going to march or send money to politicians who are going to support your companies right to sell your products to the very public that you depend on for your very existence. He has repeatedly listed, including links and photos, the actual official documents that bury Rock River and Springfield. After identifying myself, those answering the phone told me the men were “unavailable.” So I left a detailed message. You won’t see my money until I see yours in the hands of the groups doing the work you should have done! Not only for the firearms industry, but for American industry as a whole. It’s like you didn’t read what you yourself wrote? I’ll second and vote “Aye!” on that motion. As an Illinois resident, and a Springfield merchandise owner, I hope these two men step up big time to defeat this bill and I also hope they do not give more money to those who hate us because we own the means of our defense. True Lemmings!!! Rock River Arms, Inc.® (RRA) wants to assure the Illinois (and national) firearms community that we are still 100 percent opposed to the Gun Dealer Licensing Act – … They are a cancer meant to divide us for personal gain. They did this same kind of crap back in 2000 when they promised Clinton all kinds os BS. rock river arms (in stock) 5.0 (2) ar-15/m16 9mm drop-conversion block. Gun Classifieds, Guns for Sale, No Fees, 45000 guns for sale. I call them T-BAG. Glad to see you’re coming around, Boch, and trying to welcome back one of best firearm manufacturers in the fight against anti-gun bills, as they’ve promised to do. John, if that’s true, then you must enjoy being shot in the back. And now, whether the bill passes or not, the damage has been done. It took them several long, difficult days to come to Jesus, but they finally found Him. So now it will have to be taken up in the court’s and run the gauntlet to the federal. Spring and Rock are evil companies that need to be ousted from the shooting community. Buy guns, sell guns, trade guns. F**ck T-BAG. Rock Solid: Rock River Arms’ NSP CAR Rifle Rock River Arms ships the LAR-15 NSP CAR with a set of polymer backup sights that are spring-loaded, meaning they’ll flip up in an instant when deployed. Or perhaps they might call and give me a legitimate explanation. It may be fictional but it is an important life lesson and one that should be remembered at times such as this. I do own a couple of Springfield products…in fact one is my duty weapon…and I do like the weapons and have had good luck with their customer service, but I’m afraid they have just lost my support. Fortunately, for the consumer, the suffering will be minimal. That is the act of a man who was _directed_ to let it slide. You can delegate authority but you cannot delegate responsibility. I am agahst at this whole mess. They created a monster and let it loose on the people of the state. Which implies everything. Get out. “Welcome to the fight” implies they only just joined it. He’s forgone more money for the cause than most would believe. Go on, let’s go.”. rock river arms (in stock) 5.0 (1) forged a4 upper receiver assembly. Redefining the Pistol Caliber Carbine Contact. Thank You. That points to the potential that Jay may have gone off the rails without SA or RRA approval…”. Whatever has happened up to now, I welcome these two companies to the front lines of the fight for gun rights in Illinois. Springfield Armory just sent me an email pleading with gun owners to fight against SB 1657. As I entered the Rock River Arms booth I half-expected to see new versions of last year’s AR-15s and the crow I ate tasted great. Screw both companies. Screw SA, Screw RRA, and screw people that think second chances should be given to people that sell fundamental rights down the river. Not on this site in general, why are you here on this particular article trying to discredit TTAG’s reporting about these companies and yet don’t appear in the comments sections of other articles? If SAI and RRA did know about buying the carve out and years of donations to anti-2A politicians, they are quisling traitors. Low prices and fast shipping! None of these people had any idea what was going on? What he said. But for sale? Wouldn’t surprise me if such an inaccuracy constitutes fraud or perjury (but I’m not a lawyer, but having signed 990s for years in the past, I am pretty sure there is a perjury clause). I don’t need for my ass to get warm to realize someone is blowing smoke up it. There are 4 people listed as Directors on IRS form 990, Dennis Reese, (CEO of SA) and Tom Reese, (Co-chairman of the Board of SA) and Chuck Larson, (Co-Owner of RRA ) and Jay Keller, the actual lobbyist. putting second amendment first and bringing every resource to kill this bill, even lying traitors shamed into fighting)? Glad to have you the team, gentlemen. You really have absorbed too much of that culture. It’s a proprietary AR receiver system based on the LAR series with integral backup iron sights that rest flush with the flattop rail and a relocated charging handle. Now, their change of stance is – again – ONLY focused on their bottom line because of the uproar from concerned citizens and their customers (I mean previous customers). Sensational BS just to get clicks to drive advertising dollars. You do NOT go soft on people who backstab and destroy rights and you definitely do not believe or give credit to their BS they feed to all of us after they already got what they want. Wonder if they’ll actually read it. We warned Prairie State residents of its terrible provisions. [4] At the same time, Rock River Arms began to build AR-15 style rifles. They saw the push back and panicked. All content is posted anonymously by employees working at Rock River Arms. If they truly didn’t know what the lobbyist was doing, what does that say? Dennis Reese is a horrible human being. I have been critical of some of his articles in the past. He asked for proof. I am wondering if Mr. Keller embezzled the lobbying money … or if he worked a deal with politicians to pocket the money without the knowledge/blessing of SA or RRA. Robert Farago should get a medal for creating this site and John Boch should get a medal for his solid reporting of Springfield Arms and Rock River Arms despicable treason to the 2A and us People Of The Gun. The only place I’d welcome seeing them is at a soup kitchen. FlamencoD — you’ve entirely glossed over the part where discussion of Keller’s work on the carve-out went back to January. It contained some explicit comments. After the story they had plenty of times that they could have made an apology. Otherwise… what’s your investment with these companies. 2,000 members? I’ve heard and seen first-hand the weirdness that some people slip into when they have a brain tumor or brain injury. The dang bill had to be edited to add that in. Gualtieri signed off on the purchase in April 2014. And if they have any sense they’ll sell their companies entirely now and get out like S&W had to do back in the 90s. (ie. You won’t hurt my feelings. Screw them – it is and always was about their pocket books!! I might have been born at night, but it wasn’t last night. I’d like to know why John Boch didn’t report on this earlier when its clear from his timeline that he knew shenanigans were happening as far back as February. Please visit your local dealer. Get the inside scoop on jobs, salaries, top office locations, and CEO insights. I don’t welcome their support, I don’t welcome their voice and I don’t welcome or want their products or company anywhere near me EVER again. Time to walk and stop talking. From Springfield Armory, the Larsons went into partnership with Les Baer to form Les Baer Custom and build custom 1911 pistols. After all, neither Springfield nor Rock River – as evidenced by their Tuesday statements severing ties with IFMA – are even in tune enough to even know who’s in the capitol fighting hard for their gun rights along with those of their customers. As always, you may also place your order online or via phone directly through Rock River Arms for at … He _had_ to have been directed to take no poisition. Yes, they mentioned the NRA and the Illinois State Rifle Association in their statements. TTAG staff (thankfully) deleted the comment I was replying to. Intro to the AR-15 Rifle at Rock River Arms Headquarters in Colona, Illinois. Judas felt remorse at the end too, it did not go well for him either. Absolutely correct about the names on the Articles of Incorporation. Rock River Arms. When you ran your first “story”, you sensationalized it by titling it that SA and RRA specifically carved out a deal as if you knew that for a fact when you did not. Here’s my reply: Please unsubscribe me from all correspondence from your company. Founded in 1996. As for Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms: never bought anything from the latter, but I have owned two SA rifles. Industry rags, whether cars or tech or guns or whatever, are all-positive all the time because they’re paid by the companies they’re “reviewing” or writing news on. But Rock River Arms’ response just set a much, much lower bar. At first, both companies attacked me, The Truth About Guns and Guns Save Life. RRA’s co-founder is Chuck Larson, who is also IFMA’s treasurer. The Jay Keller is a RRA and SA employee, “…we didn’t know.” is irresponsible. Springfield Armory, like Rock River Arms, was not aware of the actions taken by our trade association, IFMA, until after the fact. Did the check clear?! “You’ve pretended to be a “reporter” but didn’t do the due diligence of one and get other sources for your story.” Me, too. Yes, Springfield and Rock River Arms, through their now-former lobbying outfit, the Illinois Firearms Manufacturer’s Association, traded their opposition to a Prairie State retailer licensing bill for an exemption to that law. ©COPYRIGHT 2020, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Here in AZ, the Arizona Citizens Defense League has only around 2000 members, and yet, AZCDL and its handful of members are responsible for most of the pro-rights laws passed the last few years in AZ. I could be wrong and they may be totally innocent….but their tardy reaction and especially the fact that they blew you off back in February when you tried to discuss the behavior of their ‘trade associaton’ with them, indicates to me that they either knew and approved or knew and didn’t care. Doesn’t make sense. Read Springfield’s first statement. I’ll bet they care now. I’m going to go with they knew what was going on AND they are incompetent. Steve, the word “firearms” is hyperlinked in your text! It’s easy enough. Lordy. Thousands. They didn’t know anything about a bill that would directly affect them? They would be well advised not to try to tough this one out. NEVER FORGET – BOYCOTT SPRINGFIELD ARMORY and ROCK RIVER ARMS FOREVER!!! I will be happy to forgive once the companies have been sold to non family members, or once someone buys their assets in a Chapter 13 auction. Don’t get me wrong, I applaud Mr. Boch’s work. 1 freaking vote was the difference, let that sink in. I donned my suit and spent time there too, representing Guns Save Life. Sorry folks, but “activism” like not buying a RRA product is just keyboard commando posing horsecrap. Sure, those out there might not be able to get their favorite gun, but there are many other firms standing in the gap making equally fine products who will step up to fill the void that the possible loss of one or both of these firms create. Screw them, trying to cover their asses and seem like they knew nothing about this. Which still leaves SA and RR incompetent, or complicit. Figures someone from CA would be perfectly fine with supporting a company that stabbed so many in the back. So What Happened At Rock River Arms & Springfield Armory??? (And FYI, I have donated to AZCDL even though I am a resident of Montana, and I doubt that I am the only non-resident to do so. I say welcome them to the fight. John Boch is a peacemaker and a dealmaker, so the final paragraph is not a shock to me in the least. So What Happened At Rock River Arms & Springfield Armory??? So few do the heavy lifting. This is the Rock River Arms company profile. Rock River Arms was founded 11 years ago by two brothers, Mark and Chuck Larson, who worked out of a garage. Did you just decide to come talk smack about TTAG and randomly pick this topic? Reese ignored my message. [2] Between 1981 and 1991 the Larsons worked at Springfield Armory, Inc., where Mark was the head armorer. Obviously, that was not the case. Primedia or whatever its fucking Crony Capitalist Corporate Amerika Looking up J Alexander Hunt, their only client is Chicagoland Speedway. They got caught. Our legislative team spends a lot of time at the capitol, and we all work behind them and support them. The entire thing is just a shame. I’m afraid that John’s excessively conciliatory approach may influence readers to likewise adopt the idea that the whole debacle really was just one big misunderstanding, and in doing so, prevent les collaborateurs from receiving their just desserts. Keep up the good work Mr Farago and Mr Boch. You’re obviously just here to sell us stuff from Midway! rock river arms (in stock) 0.0. a4 9mm upper receiver. Like knowing their ad buys don’t buy silence? Those never change, even when the people die. Yesterday, both Rock River Arms and Springfield Armory severed ties with their own private lobbying group, The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). I’ve worked for a lot of companies and I can tell you this without a doubt- the treasury officer knows every dime that comes and goes and every large dollar transaction is approved by them. Each firearm is built using 4140 Ordnance steel and engineered using the latest CNC machines. John, why didn’t you report on this in February when it might have done some good? Both companies vowed to vigorously fight for gun rights moving forward. We ask not your counsels or arms. SA imports their firearms. The Larson brothers severed their connection with Eagle Arms in 1997 when that firm moved to Geneseo, Illinois. Call me a Fudd (I’m not one as I am against this Illinois law and any gun control legislation, and I love my AR-15s and 30+ round mags – no Fudd has ever claimed that), or say I’m what’s wrong with the gun community, blah blah. But, it is my understanding that these names were on the most recently available 990. It should be a wake up call to any other firearms company out there, that just like S and W in the past, and their behind the scenes deals, the American firearms buying public doesn’t suffer fools very kindly, and it doesn’t pay to stand on the wrong side of the 2nd amendment. They didn’t know the efforts of their own lobbyists working with politicians on a bill that would directly affect them? Yeah, I read that as someone has something over on him. They’re spending big bucks to stop SB-1657 — the very same gun control bill that they (and Rock River Arms) enabled by withdrawing their opposition in exchange for a carve-out. They aren’t in this fight for keeps. Find out what works well at ROCK RIVER ARMS from the people who know best. The fact is that the lobbying organization was the sole property of SA and RRA. Enter the Rock River Arms IRS 2. There are bashers that claim it ain't military spec. Maybe Owens got a Rolex, too. It’s a proprietary AR receiver system based on the LAR series with integral backup iron sights that rest flush with the flattop rail and a relocated charging handle. First, the initial articles about this incident were published on Friday. When they finally got around to it, I’ve been wondering if they were truly misinformed or even uninformed… Or if they were backpedaling as a damage control or CYA procedure. In January, I asked Jay Keller to clarify rumors I’d heard about IFMA possibly negotiating a deal for manufacturers as part of dealer licensing. Cui bono: SA and RRA backed off in exchange for favorable considerations, plain and simple. Rock River Arms, Inc.® (RRA) wants to assure the Illinois (and national) firearms community that we are still 100 percent opposed to the Gun … If I read the information correctly, some of the money definitely left IFMA … and then it disappeared. http://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/16/Salvador-based-Army-colonel-indicted-on-bribery-charges/5406606027600/. See our full line of Rock River rifles here at Impact Guns! Thanks John! That last paragraph goes right past slow learner to advanced window licking 101 with ease. So this is where I ask: TTAG, are you *sure* you know what you’re talking about? THIS ISN”T A BIG OOPSY, IT”S CALLED A PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR! Of course, it all comes down on the top of the heads of management, for it was them who made the poor decisions to either follow this bad line of action, or who were so incompetent that they allowed their lobbying group to bring them down the same path. The two companies (and their executives) are either brain dead, or colluding. Must be 21 to purchase. I want to take them at their word, but I recall Barack Obama’s claims he read about one scandal after another in the news, too. Kudos to them. So how much is the check they wrote you for? (Colona, IL) On Friday, April 5, 2013 Rock River Arms President, Mark Larson passed away at the age of 50. It’s like he doesn’t understand how hard it is to get a right back once it’s been stolen! Notice I said it’s a bill. Rock River Arms builds some of the highest quality firearms available today. Use their lobbying muscle and money for the fight. These guys are lying assholes who to date have helped put over 1500 FFL dealers out of business in illinois! However, we are not open to the public for direct sales. OUT OF STOCK (1) LWRC SIX8-SPR 6.8 SPC. Make a donation to these pro gun groups who are doing the work you say you support to the tune of twice what you paid the lobbiests! I read that last paragraph in the same way I hear southerners say “bless your heart.”. They sold you folks out. Long term friends/allies begging him to call off the dogs? We value your participation. Does anyone really believe he did that on his own, without input from his principals, SA and RRA? Is anybody aware that T-BAG used to be in the car industry and created so much fake news that the car industry bought them out to make them go away? In the end, we killed it off as part of an “all hands on deck” effort. If Springfield and Rock River want to lie like a Persian rug, go into politics and see if you can snag some gullible fools that way. Thank you John. Either way, no decent Second Amendment loving American has any business patronizing Springfield Assholes Inc, or Rat River Arms. The biggest gun group in MI is full of Fudds. The frog welcomed the scorpian onto his back for a ride across the river after a few words of reassurance as well…. This is softening the blow on them and people who just read public statements and articles like this and on other sponsored gun mag rags will think “oh well it wasnt so bad”. Some may never forgive and none should forget what has transpired. That story was written for a reason. The logic is fine, except for the fact that you can shoot .308 and .458 socom and .338 Federal and tons of other large calibers out of tons of other semi-auto guns. Both companies knew what was happening. We all knew the vote would be close. Even more damning is the fact that the lobbyist Jay Keller stated “No Position”. How can you welcome springfield and rra after they made a deal and there is more to this deal, that is not mentioned , and if you dig more it will come out, now they are trying to say they didn’t knew nothing, Yours is an example of what is wrong with this country. Much as you are doing now. If they did not they are too stupid and do not deserve our money and patronage. It is time for Springfield and RRA to learn a lesson by taking a substantive hit on their bottom line. How many Illinois gun owners didn’t do squat about this issue, and are now bitching because some scumbag lobbyist also took “no position?”. Wow…SA is a POS outfit and needs to go away! We had been betrayed by the lobbyist of a firm led by Rock River Arms and Springfield Armory’s owners — and no one else. Of Keller ’ s much more forgiving than i would be perfectly fine supporting! 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